Heidi, Heidi, Heidi

Here’s the latest from the captain of the Kimtanic:

Re:”I’m a Kimkins Newbie” Challenge 2008! 2 Hours, 15 Minutes ago

Kimmer:
“I don’t believe in starvation mode (you can read more in my blog). The whole point of gastric surgery or Lapband is to drastically cut calories. There was a woman on the Joy Luck Club (Today Show) recently who lost 125+ lbs after gastric surgery. Her surgeon was on the show with her. She is now a size 2 and described what she eats: 2-3 oz of protein first, then a small amount of veggies. If she’s full after a few ounces of protein, she passes on the veggies. Her example of how many asparagus she could eat was 2-4, plus a multivitamin.

“Last night I heard part of the show “I Can Make You Thin” on TLC. He also mentioned that metabolism is not rigid, it’s flexible and rises and falls according to activity level and personal “build in” metabolism. This is what I’ve said for years. When you reduce calories your metabolism drops, but not drastically. When you reach goal and begin eating more, your metabolism will raise, but people need to eat less at goal. This is a shocker for some people. They didn’t “break” their metabolism — their body may be 50, 100, 200 pounds lighter. A 125 lb body needs much less “energy” (calories) than a 325 lb body.”

“Dr. Johnny Bowden is respected in the diet industry. He wrote in an article suggesting women can lose and maintain on 1250-1400 calories a day — men 1800.”

“Don’t force low calories, just eat clean … eat according to appetite. Be sure to take a good quality multivitamin (I like Centrum). Dr. Oz on Oprah suggested splitting the multivitamin in half because our bodies don’t process a mass dose of vitamins all at once.”
“The “tons of energy” is ketosis. Ain’t it great!”

Heidi, Heidi, Heidi…..

As par for the course she is spreading her brand of nutritional knowledge. Not that any of it is true. I don’t want to get into all the untruths in the above statements. I would just like to address the points on WLS.

Are you ready for a little WLS 101???

She points out the lady only eats 2 onces of protein and if she is still hungry she will eat the veggies. There is a good reason for only eating such a small portion.

YOUR FRIGGIN’ STOMACH IS NOW ONLY THE SIZE OF AN EGG!!!

FIGURE A—VERTICAL BANDED GASTROPLASTY
FIGURE B—LAP BAND
FIGURE C—ROUX-N-Y (RNY)
The graphic above gives you an idea of several types of WLS. In all of them the “pouch” is restricted to hold only a very few ounces at a time. This makes it where you are forced to limit your portion sizes. One bite too much and you have the wonderful effect of puking everything back up.

As for the lady who lost 120+ pounds, I would like to know how far out she is. In WLS speak that means how long it’s been since her surgery. Most people do grand for the first few years. The farther out they are the more weight they have gained and more complications they have had.

But this post is not about debating the pros and cons of WLS. Wander over to my personal blog to get my views on that. This is about Heidi continuing to use the WLS life as an argument for how great her plan is.

I’ve addressed this many times over the course of these past months. When comparing Kimkins vs WLS, that’s like comparing apples and oranges.

Yes, one of the points of WLS is restriction of calories. By using restrictive procedures such as the lap band and restrictive/malabsorptive procedures such as the RNY.

BUT……this is where Heidi fails….

When someone has WLS…….

YOU ARE FOLLOWED BY A WHOLE TEAM OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS

You know, those people with a whole string of letters behind their name….like MD, PhD, RN, CRRN, RD, etc….someone who is actually QUALIFIED to be giving advice.

In my case alone these are the MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS I saw on a routine basis for 2 solid years and am still followed regularly by most of them.

  • PRIMARY CARE DOC
  • BARIATRIC SURGEON
  • ENT DOC
  • REGISTERED DIETITIAN
  • BARIATRIC SPECIALIST DIETITIAN
  • PSYCH DOC
  • PSYCH THERAPIST
  • GI DOC
  • BARIATRIC SUPPORT SPECIALIST

What does Kimkins offer…..a “bored housewife” with a computer and too much time on her hands.

Just to add this…..remember Heidi is reported to have had “stomach stapling” years ago……

So how’s that working for ya, Heidi……

I’m Mad as Hell and I’m NOT Gonna Take it ANYMORE

AmyB has been reaching out to the former Kimkins members and what does she get for her trouble??? Some troll popping in to comment on her blog.

Lot’s of great people stepped up to the plate and let this troll have it. Yours truly was one of them.

I’m angry. Angry at this troll for coming onto Amy’s blog and putting her down. But the anger goes so much deeper than that.

I’m angry that our society has women convinced that they are worthless unless they are thin. Heidi plays that to the hilt. She counts on the need for women to conform to society’s ideals.

When will women realize they are just fine the way they are? Diets do not work. WLS does not work. If you are fat, look at your relatives—it’s genetic, people.

Repeat after me DIETS DO NOT WORK.

Sorry–off the soap box—for now.

The people still left at Kimkins are caught up in the idea of being thin. Their entire self worth rests on what the scale says. They are consumed with massive amounts of guilt if they OMG actually eat something.

Oh but they are dfoing if for their health. Like hell you are. But if you have convinced yourself that is your reason for being on a diet, let me tell you this.

YOU MAKE YOUR HEALTH WORSE BY DIETING.

Non dieters actually have better health then dieters do.

But back to Kimkins…..

Not only are these remaining Kimkins members falling for the whole I’ve gotta be thin load of crap. They are also degrading themselves even further by continuing to support a fraud and a liar.

WHY???!!!???

AmyB, you keep reaching out to them….you are a good person.

Me………

I’M MAD AND I’M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE

Collateral Damage

Collateral Damage is a term used by the U.S. military for unintended or incidental damage caused during a military operation. In everyday life, it has come to mean injury inflicted on something other than an intended target.

The Kimkins saga has had quite a few cases of collateral damage over the past months. Just reading the accounts from the Kimkins Survivors gives you a glimpse at just how great an impact.

The mystery of Martin’s Martini turns out to be another case of collateral damage. Read the latest updates on this saga here:

I can’t figure out why all of this had to play out this way.

It is going to take a very long time for the healing process to be complete.

If it ever is…….

Fawn Update

Fawn is leaving CampCarbAway.

This post was forwarded to me from a camp member. It was posted in Fawn’s journal. She edited her original journal post from Dec 2007 today to say this:

Please Cancel My Membership to this Site at campcarbaway

Reason:

I do not want my name agentlefawn2001@yahoo.com or “fawn” to be in any way a harm to this site that I have come to love so much because of all of you. I have gotten many emails today about my name and photos being plastered all over the internet on bloggers by people with ill intent.

so for the sake of the WHOLE, I am leaving this site, so that this site will not be affected by knowing me or associating with me, fawn.

I am closing my yahoo account as well.

My apologies for any controversy that was caused by knowing me or associating with me or my name being associated with this site. I am truly sorry for if I stay here, they will always have a reason to come here for whatever reason.

I will never forget anyone of you and will always keep you in my heart

with a tearful regret I depart.

sincerely Butterfly aka: fawn

« Last Edit: Today at 08:18:02 AM by Butterfly »

Here are some responses from the camp members…..

Member #1
Butterfly — I don’t care what is going on out on the internet regarding you and blogs. I sincerely want you to stay!! Please reconsider leaving hun. You are NOT harming the site in ANY way by being here. It would truly not be the same site without your daily posts and your sweet soul. Please hun, stay here. Leave the outside world at the door and stay. The purpose of this site is to have a safe place to concentrate on your weight loss goals. If you leave the site, then you let THEM win. You don’t want to do that!! I will respect whatever choice you make, but I would sincerely be upset beyond words if you left. PLEASE STAY!!!

Member #2
Butterfly–

Oh the drama – – it’s hard to deal with, isn’t it? Am sorry you are getting emails and internet postings from ill intended persons. It’s difficult to see and hear. However, you (as well as many of us here — well, probably all of us here) need a safe haven for our WOE and eventual WOL. Publically announcing you wanting to depart to ‘save’ this camp from further harm is commendable, but unwarrented.

I think I speak for Pokie, as mother hen and owner of camp, that you are welcome here. If you still feel the need to leave, please contact her to discuss. If you choose to leave, I’m sure keeping your username active will allow you the time and perspective you may need to consider changing your mind.

Best Wishes in whichever decision you shall make.

Member #3
Butterfly-
We have communicated in private, so you know how I feel about this. I just want to show my support publicly as well. You have taken a beating lately and for that I am very sorry. I hope the people who have been so quick to attack you do not live in glass houses, it may come back to haunt them. I respect whatever decision you make, but hope you know you will be missed here.
Your friend,

Tippy Toes AKA Pocahontas
Butterfly, each of us who gets the beatings all feel we need to go. Please, please don’t go. We love you and we would miss you forever. And you know what? YOU brought us no drama–they did and we all know it. Please, please stay.

Member #4
Butterfly…..you cannot live your life based on other people and their opinions. You are a strong woman, stand tall and smile in the face of this adversity! This will only make you stronger!
We the people of the site love that you are here! That should be all that matters! This is your home, you deserve a safe place to be just like the rest of us. Controversity will always try to get it’s foot in the door my dear! If not you then someone else! You leaving will not keep the site free from trouble.
I truly hope you reconsider leaving….we want you to stay!

You think this is what Heidi had in mind all along???

FAWN???

The whole Kimkins saga has so many twists and turns it is hard to keep up most of the time. The latest is the new info coming to light about FAWN. Check out these sites for the latest updates.

Medusa: FAWNNNNN LEAVES THE KIMPOUND & GETS A REFUND FROM HER VERY OWN AMERICAN IDOL !!!

Medusa: FAWN & KIMMER…THE WAY WE WERE … UPDATED !!!

Medusa: DOMINATION AND SUBMISSION: A PRIMER…UPDATE #5: FAWN DEFENDS TIPPY TOES

Medusa: FAWN’S MAD AS HELL & YUCKY’S NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE…WITH MORE DELICIOUS UPDATES !!!

Agentlefawn? « MJR’s-Duck Squad

Fawn Without Kimkins or The Smilies. « HoneyBee’s Blog

Fawn’s 2nd blog has gone POOF also……

I’m gonna take a couple of pills and call it a day after reading all of that.

Former Kimkins Members in San Diego County

Former Kimkins Members in San Diego County

John Tiedt would like to hear from you.

Please Email John.

Thank you!

Heidi’s Newest Pic

After Heidi removed herself from the front page recently, she up and decides to add her progress pic once again.

(Photo courtesy of Honeybee)

The usual conversation went on in the “Fascination With Kimmer” thread at LowCarbFriends. Is it a real pic? Is she really losing weight? Was it photoshopped?

At this point, I won’t believe any pic Heidi posts herself. Her track record for falsifying pics speaks volumes. I’m looking for some more concrete proof from an outside source before I believe anything from Heidi.