Kimkins VS WLS

Everyone involved in the Kimkins saga remembers the glaring headline in the June 12, 2007 edition of Woman’s World magazine: Better Than Gastric Bypass. Kimkins is Not better than gastric bypass.

Heidi Diaz AKA Kimmer is up to her old tricks. Comparing her “diet” with those having had WLS. This is her latest from the Kimpire:

“XXXXXXX – I’ll share a secret with you: the diet that
gastric bypass and lapband patients follow after surgery is veryKimkins like. lsnt it better to do the diet and skip the surgery?

We’ve got quite a few tummy surgery members. It’s not a fix-all and some people regain the weight because they find foods that are easy to eat after surgery (milkshakes, candy, mashed potatoes/gravy, Twinkies… )

It’s always an option if you decide to go that way and there’s nothing wrong with having it done if you and your doctor agree it’s the way to go. How about surprising yourself and stick to Kimkins for a month and
see for yourself? The Kimkins Shake Option is nearly identical to the post surgery liquid diet. And be sure to take a good quality multivitamin. I go with generic Centrum from Wal Mart (some ladies use prenatal).”

The WLS patient is prescribed a four part post-op diet. This varies from each bariatric center and each surgeon. Yet they are all similar. By stage four most are recommending just smaller portions of the food pyramid.

  1. Clear Liquids — The first stage of the gastric bypass diet, clear liquids (meaning beverages that you can almost see through), usually lasts for a day or two after the operation. The clear liquid diet starts with sips of water, and then allows foods like sugar-free juice, diet gelatin, boullion or clear broth, and flat (no fizz) diet soda in small amounts, usually 2-3 ounces at a time.
  2. Low-Fat Full Liquids — If no problems are experienced with clear liquids, the gastric bypass diet advances to high-protein liquids like diet Carnation Instant Breakfast™, Ensure™, or Sustacal™. This stage of the diet is started before discharge from the hospital and lasts for 1 to 2 weeks. Most patients also begin taking a chewable multivitamin/ mineral supplement at this stage.
  3. Soft/Purée Diet — The physician will indicate when it is time to advance to the soft or purée diet. Some patients are able to start this diet after they have been out of the hospital for about two weeks. Others may need to wait longer. The purée diet includes very soft, high-protein foods like scrambled egg, low-fat cheese or cottage cheese, or blenderized lean meats like tuna fish, chicken, or pork. Some patients find it more convenient to use strained baby foods. It is important to make sure that all foods are puréed or extremely soft and smooth in texture.
  4. Regular Diet — The regular diet starts about 8 weeks or later after gastric bypass surgery. While this diet includes all 5 food groups, it is important to start with high-protein foods, like lean meats or milk, at every meal. Each meal or snack should be small, with liquids consumed in between meals. Ask a dietitian for advice on planning an individualized regular diet pattern.

Here’s a sample menu:

Sample Menu
Breakfast Lunch Dinner
  • banana – 1/4 med
  • Scrambled egg – 1
  • toast, white –1/2 slice
  • margarine – 1 tsp
  • broiled chicken breast- 2 oz
  • carrots, boiled – 1/4 cup
  • margarine – 1 tsp
  • pasta salad – 1/4 cup
  • haddock, baked or broiled – 2 oz
  • green beans – 1/4 cup
  • dinner roll – 1/2
Morning snack

Afternoon Snack

Evening snack
  • graham crackers – 2
  • pudding, sugar-free, made with 2% fat milk – 1/2 cup
  • fruit cocktail, waterpacked – 1./2 cup
  • cheese, American – 1 oz
  • saltine crackers – 2
  • mustard – 1 tsp
*Consume nonfat milk between meals, throughout the day. Drink no more than 2 to 3 ounces at a time, for a daily total of 2 cups.
This Sample Diet Provides the Following
Calories 1011 Fat 37 gm
Protein 71 gm Calcium 1065 mg
Carbohydrates 97 gm Iron 6 mg

Do you see 500 calories anywhere on that sample menu??? Do you see liguids are for a SHORT period of time only?

Here are the actual post op instructions for Johns Hopkins for RNY and Lap-Band surgeries.

Laparoscopic or Roux-en-Y Gastric Bypass Patients

Lap Band Patients

Now let me tell you how I did the weight loss surgery thing. I did not follow the recommendations of my surgical center of a low fat way of eating. Hey even the bariatric centers are still stuck on stupid about the low carb approach, as you can plainly see from the above sample menu. They just encourage you to eat your protein first. There is a good reason for this. Your stomach is the size of an  egg for goddess sake. You have to give your body the best possible nutrition first. So you don’t eat your body instead instead.

Low fat is encouraged for two reasons. One being they are still caught up in the whole low fat dogma like the rest of the medical establishment. Secondly, many post WLSers just are unable to tolerate fat intake. They bypassed 2 feet of your intestine, of course you are going to handle fat differently.

As for the low calorie part of it, many do go for the low calorie in the beginning.  If you were throwing up every time you took a bite of the wrong food or ate too fast or didn’t chew well enough, you wouldn’t be getting in much food either. But that is not the norm of WLS. As time goes on their calories range from 1200-1500 calories.

I ate 2500 cals plus after progressing to stage four. I lost 200+ pounds in 2 years. I maintain now with 1800-2000 cals.

Constantly comparing the Kimkins starvation diet to WLS post-op diet is comparing apples and oranges. They are 2 entirely different things. Now compare the Kimkins diet and some of those followed on the pro-ana, pro-mia sites and you are right on the money there.
The biggest difference in the WLS diet and the Kimkins, the post WLSers are followed very closely by a full team of doctors and nutritonists.

Who does Kimkins have?

A morbidly obese psychopathic housewife with way too much time on her hands itching to swindle you out of your hard earned $80

5 Responses

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  2. Thank you for a real example of weight loss surgery. I think it is also important to note that WLS patients get extra vitamins to make sure their nutrients are being absorbed by the body. There is no way to check which nutrients are lacking during the Kimkins diet and all that is recommended is a multivitamin. Anyone doing k/e or even egg white challenges will not get all the nutrients they need from a multivitamin.

  3. Thank you for the very informational post by someone that KNOWS something about WLS, unlike Kimmer who might have had WLS but failed at losing weight and/or maintain the loss.

  4. A close relative had weight loss surgery, lost her weight eating baby foods for a year. She threw up fatty and spicy foods; so avoids them yet. In the meantime, a pregnancy ended disastrously before the baby was full term – it starved to death, and she almost did as well.Only after that did the doctors exclaim over her substandard food intake and quality, and take steps to correct it. Yet she saw the doctor regularly. What about the KK’ers who have their doctors’ diet blessings? Are they being honest with their doctors about amounts and quality of their food choices?

  5. Thank you for explaining that. I didn’t know much about WLS diets, but I knew Heidi was wrong, LOL!
    My blog: Kimorexia

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